tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post6190029719275473510..comments2023-10-23T13:53:52.516-07:00Comments on SuperHero Lunchbox: Super Couple Angst, or Just Plain Bullshit?: The Ten Commandments of Soap WritingSnapperhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03141538240915482048noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-68883622304816554782009-07-29T05:38:48.320-07:002009-07-29T05:38:48.320-07:00Here is the link tot he announcement of the The Gu...Here is the link tot he announcement of the The Guiding Light Project:<br />http://www.redroom.com/blog/jenniferkate/announcing-the-guiding-light-project <br /><br />Here is a link to the stuff I've contributed (there's some duplication between that site and this one...but not entirely):<br />http://www.redroom.com/member/Snapper<br /><br />I hope you do consider contributing. It would be great to have something from someone who's followed GL from radio. Older than dirt is good!Snapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141538240915482048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-8736129331290691172009-07-29T00:57:47.630-07:002009-07-29T00:57:47.630-07:00Sly - how awesome to hear from someone who followe...Sly - how awesome to hear from someone who followed GL from radio to television! here I thought *I* was a long-term viewer - I'm humbled.<br /><br />-Oh no don't be, it's just that I'm older than dirt. ;-)<br /><br />You should check out and consider contributing to the Guiding Light Project at Redroom.com ...I'm sure you have stories to tell. <br /><br />-What's the link I'll check them out? By the way I'm loving the comments and the scenarios for a new show. Let's do it.Slyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09229634717893910128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-2335259071045392592009-07-28T20:28:01.767-07:002009-07-28T20:28:01.767-07:00Sly - how awesome to hear from someone who followe...Sly - how awesome to hear from someone who followed GL from radio to television! here I thought *I* was a long-term viewer - I'm humbled.<br /><br />You should check out and consider contributing to the Guiding Light Project at Redroom.com ...I'm sure you have stories to tell.Snapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141538240915482048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-81191287208372318582009-07-28T20:22:13.427-07:002009-07-28T20:22:13.427-07:00Susan said
I'm still "invested," but...Susan said<br />I'm still "invested," but not quite so much so, anymore, because I know that things could have been soooo much better, and I reserve the right to mourn the loss of what I wasn't allowed to see.<br /><br />Yes this is the issue for me too. It seems such a waste of time and talent to have done such a good job of writing this story with a delicate hand then come along with a sledge hammer to ruin it at the very the end of the show. <br /><br />Yes they can fix it a little bit but I don't blieve there is time to give it the repair it truly needs and deserves. What's going to be given is words out of someone's mouth which breaks the cardinal rule of writing, show don't tell.<br /><br />I am a GL wathcer from it's move from radio to TV and over the years there have been other such goofs regards incoherent story but this is the worst yet because it it throws a monkey wrench into what was a lovely healing attempt at this certain prejudice. <br /><br />This story surpassed every other way it's been told for sensitivity. The L Word din't have this nor any of the movies which seem to think the only outcome for such people is either death or alcohol and drug addiction.<br /><br />Two adult women in the midwest of the USA; come on that was great stuff that is what kept me invested was the fact that not only were these women straight all their lives before but they fell in love in the bible-belt. <br /><br />I hope the ending will be a good one, (even though I know it will all be words) so I can continue to watch on youtube wothout knowing it will end badly, that's all at this point I can hope for. Sure they can do a hurry up fix but that's just another slap in the fans faces, a disregard for our investment.Slyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09229634717893910128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-87576040256772414722009-07-14T05:29:41.188-07:002009-07-14T05:29:41.188-07:00A-Freaking-Men, Lana. Thank you for adding such a...A-Freaking-Men, Lana. Thank you for adding such an articulate voice to the chorus of objections to the recent developments in this storyline.<br /><br />at this point, I'm actually far less bothered by the maybe-baby (even tho' I still don't want to see it!) than I am about the manner in which the Natalia character left. Yes, it is in her nature to run. I won't dispute that. But, to take off, *without a word* to her son (so far as we know), or her supposed girlfriend? (and, no, 'passing notes' through Blake &/or Fr. Ray don't count, imo) and disappointing said supposed-girlfriend's daughter, who she loves like a daughter, in the process? No. Just, no. I will never believe Natalia capable of such callousness.<br /><br />I have loved this s/l. Even with the recent missteps in the story, it's still the best thing out there. but, that doesn't mean I don't have every right to be disappointed in the recent choices the writers have made. I hope that they can redeem themselves, to some degree, when Natalia returns, but for me the damage is done.<br /><br />I'm still "invested," but not quite so much so, anymore, because I know that things could have been soooo much better, and I reserve the right to mourn the loss of what I wasn't allowed to see.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05984277446096623341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-42298149897926608632009-07-13T15:56:47.592-07:002009-07-13T15:56:47.592-07:00Everything about otalia followed the commandments ...Everything about otalia followed the commandments until this latest pregnancy/disappearance..so unlike the character of Natalia.. What a sorry ass group of writers if this was all they could come up with to explain La Leccia's absence. Even if they do redeem this whole BULLSHIT when she returns, I have lost that thrill..the OTalia magic that made me obsessed..BUZZ KILL to the maxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-88170013377276243812009-07-13T11:44:13.571-07:002009-07-13T11:44:13.571-07:00And some of us who have watched GL for 35 years or...And some of us who have watched GL for 35 years or more call "BULLSHIT"Snapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141538240915482048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-13298954771140123742009-07-13T11:42:29.551-07:002009-07-13T11:42:29.551-07:00And I think the writers of GL HAVE followed the co...And I think the writers of GL HAVE followed the commandments. Those only tuning in since the Otalia storyline "started" (late 08) are missing a lot of character truths about Natalia and Olivia that ARE being deconstructed and reconstructed brilliantly in the current arc choices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-84553105612872827682009-07-12T18:09:06.268-07:002009-07-12T18:09:06.268-07:00Add this to any concerns people might have about h...Add this to any concerns people might have about how ready the GL audience is for a less pussy-whipped Otalia:<br />my inside sources tell me that P&G has received almost no negative feedback from viewers re Otalia, but an staggering amount of POSITIVE feedback. It's a product and you know what they did when they decided to pull Otalia's teeth? They invented New Coke.Snapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141538240915482048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-56828558093093164572009-07-12T17:34:43.335-07:002009-07-12T17:34:43.335-07:00((EKNY wrote:
" 'Listen to your audienc...((EKNY wrote: <br /><br />" 'Listen to your audience, and don't insult their intelligence.' "<br /><br />Lesbian viewers are not GL's primary audience--only a small, vocal minority. The intended audience is straight, fearful viewers from middle-America that the writers think need hand-holding in order to help them get over their awful fear of l-l-lesbians and gay men. That's what this storyline has always been about: making Pleasantville--where bias is not okay--safer for cute purple bunnies.))<br /><br />That makes sense to a degree, except that <br />1] in the history of GL they have taken on several controversial topics that could have [and did] offended "fearful middle america" and done it in a non-hand holding fashion - like rape and incest for instance. CC was an integral part of some of those as well, so they know she can do it.<br />2]They decided to take this "lesbian" issue on, and they have been doing it for a year now really well - in a non-hand holding way [Natalia dissing Fr. Ray using scripture was NOT backing away from controversy!] - the "fearful middle americans" that were going to react badly already have. When Natalia stopped the marriage and Otalia declared they loved each other, that ship sailed. Whoever was going to be offended has already been offended - so why screw things up now? Even if [oh horror of horrors] Natalia kicked Olivia over and married Frank, EVERYONE knows it will be a sham loveless marriage. They already left Pleasantville - why then stop in "weird inconsistancy town"<br />3] What would be the use of pretending to the alleged "fearful middle americans" who you say are the audience that "lesbians may get together, but they don't really have sex, so don't worry". I think that cat is out of the bag, thanks to Oprah,Rosie, Ellen and Portia, etc. If someone is fearful or hateful, nothing they could do with this story now would really appease them anyway - and at this point what good would it do, since the show is ending - no one will be watching in future. <br />4] I think you are selling much of "middle america" short. The small vocal minority here are really the bigots and haters that can find fault even with a beautiful story like this one {used to be}. True - lesbians and gays will always be a statitical minority, but our friends, families, and allies all together with us are actually a majority. They ALL want to see a positive story of women in love like this one.<br />Your point about watching the story that is being told now is a good one...I am still watching. I will still note and be heartened by anything positive that happens [including especially the ongoing bravura acting by CC and JL]. But I can't help but think sometimes about what might have been -Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-91618143155294798862009-07-12T13:01:19.456-07:002009-07-12T13:01:19.456-07:00Can we keep in mind this is a soap opera? I still...Can we keep in mind this is a soap opera? I still say SHE'S NOT PREGNANT.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06482217352094348147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-70420659554750797102009-07-12T10:09:59.327-07:002009-07-12T10:09:59.327-07:00Word to JCF's post in its entirety (except I d...Word to JCF's post in its entirety (except I do think N's pregnant in all likelihood).<br /><br />I'm a dyke too (not a soap viewer, and not on BPD) & yeah, we've been here before. But... the customer is not always right. Viewers are not making the product. We all have the option to turn off the set, always.<br /><br />It seems to me that in their rage and disappointment, many people are no longer <i>watching</i> this soap--the one in front of them. They're watching what they think they're not-seeing. Which is something very different. They've come to conclusions and are looking to see those confirmed. If the couple had not been desexualized, people wouldn't be so angry. But then we wouldn't have been watching this story on this particular soap because that's a large part of the issue, has always been so, and, in terms of how lesbians are represented in the media, will continue to be so indefinitely.<br /><br />If people already know there is no way they will ever be able to accommodate a view wherein a plot development that has already taken place might indeed continue to play out over the coming months, why continue to watch? This show has gone there. Like it or not... we're apparently stuck with it. Coming to a foregone conclusion about a piece of media that is still mid-story--doesn't help me see it more clearly, engage with it, or understand it. It only confirms to me what I already know I think about it.<br /><br />So far as the writing goes, the characters <i>have</i> behaved consistently--without any fanwank required, for the reasons JCF discussed in her post. This couple will end up together. People might not like the way they end up together, but that they will do so is the other foregone conclusion no one seems interested in, at the moment; a happy ending was pretty important to folks a few months ago. It's still important.<br /><br />"Listen to your audience, and don't insult their intelligence."<br /><br />Lesbian viewers are <b>not</b> GL's primary audience--only a small, vocal minority. The intended audience is straight, fearful viewers from middle-America that the writers think need hand-holding in order to help them get over their awful fear of l-l-lesbians and gay men. That's what this storyline has <i>always</i> been about: making Pleasantville--where bias is not okay--safer for cute purple bunnies. --eknyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-56754097540637475252009-07-11T19:32:34.806-07:002009-07-11T19:32:34.806-07:00To be perfectly clear - Otalia is only a little p...To be perfectly clear - Otalia is only a little piece of what I've loved about GL over the years. I intend to watch right until the very end, and I do hope steps are taken to fix what's broken with this particular story line. I know that a resolution is planned and I hope it's presented in a way that is at least partially satisfactory to those of us who have invested a lot in. I do not hate Ellen Wheeler, and I'm not in any position to point a finger at any individual for making the mess that now exists - I just know the mess is clear to see, and someone needs to clean it up.Snapperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03141538240915482048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-55764536135612586752009-07-11T18:51:59.615-07:002009-07-11T18:51:59.615-07:00WORD, Snapper. You nailed it completely. You say...WORD, Snapper. You nailed it completely. You say the developments in the s/l are inexplicable...they are certainly unjustified, stupid, and yes - insulting.<br /><br />I am left wondering...do you think we will ever get an explanation? Do you think one of the actors will spill once GL is off the air? Because I would really like to know. This was not just a good story, you know, it was one of those magic events in the history of artistic and creative life - a combination of story, acting, context, outside circumstances, that you can't replicate - they just happen if you are lucky. When they cast JL and decided that she and CC would become a "couple", I'm sure they thought it would be interesting, but they could never have anticipated the explosive sexual chemistry they would have - no one can anticipate that kind of thing. And not just sexual but "couple" chemistry, love, family, humor! The humor is one of the most special and rare qualities, and they have authentic humor as a couple [like Hep and Tracy]. <br /><br />When something like this happens, DON'T BLOW IT!!!!! That could be your 11th Commandment. <br /><br />What if the Guess Who's Coming to Dinner writers had chickened out: "Nah, we can't possibly have Tracy and Hepburn star in a movie about their daughter marrying black Sidney Poitier!! The fans won't like it" - so they have the daughter back out at the last minute or Sidney Poitier dies in a car accident or something - LAME, LAME, LAME - but no - instead, they took the chance, they went for it ...and got 2 Oscars, countless other awards, AND made a HUGE positive social impact. Yes they offended plenty of bigots, but WHO THE HELL CARES! Offending bigots is a sacred duty.<br /><br />The chemistry b/w Hep and Tracy, AND Poitier in this case MADE IT WORK. The chemistry b/w CC and JL could have carried ANY story arc here, and that was becoming obvious even before they made the romantic feelings explicit. My biggest sadness is the squandering of that chemistry - killing the humor, b/c you can't predict it, you can't replace it - even those two actors in other roles won't be quite the same b/c of Olivia's long GL character history and the overall context. [Although I hope somehow we might see them in some other story together]. You seem to think they can fix this thing, and I hope you are right.<br />Thanks Snapper for speaking the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-67794149055306397212009-07-11T17:48:10.179-07:002009-07-11T17:48:10.179-07:00I am finally coming out of my "Otalia" ...I am finally coming out of my "Otalia" closet to say that this article actually lowered my blood pressure. Whew. Breathe. Thank you. I have been utterly dismayed at how two women who are in love or even "in like" do not KISS ON THE CHEEK. I kiss people left and right on the cheek in my own life who are even casual friends.... And CC oozes sex appeal. The writers know this. Blind people know this. I wonder how many times CC and JL have gone ahead and kissed "in character" at the end of a scene because as professional actors and human beings with a pulse it just "feels right" to do so. If only we could see what is on that cutting room floor....revamyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05697351957710150160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-36938930595359016242009-07-11T13:28:41.550-07:002009-07-11T13:28:41.550-07:00Oy vey, I feel so ambivalent.
I agree w/ much of ...Oy vey, I feel so ambivalent.<br /><br />I agree w/ much of what you've said, Lana.<br /><br />The discovery of pregnancy at 4 months along strains credibility (esp. for a woman who's had a child before), and the visual bit---after our months of ignoring JL becoming house-sized---is atrocious.<br /><br />HOWEVER...<br /><br />All that said, I still don't feel it out-of-character, IF Natalia discovers a pregnancy this far along, for her to have FREAKED . . . even to the extent of ignoring her commitments to Olivia and Emma (whether Olivia will be able to forgive such a freak-out is another matter). <*><br /><br />This is Holy Not-Quite-Virgin <i>Natalia</i> we're talking about. Sex---and esp. <i>pregnancy</i>--- Pushes.Her.Buttons. (not the good ones, but the Catholic GUILT ones!) like nothing most of us can imagine.<br /><br />***IF*** it was the intention to not just get Jessica off-stage, but actually BREAK Otalia up (in such a way as COULD not be fixed, until Jessica/Natalia physically returned), then this seems *to me* like just about the best way to do it [No offense to anyone out there, but all the other "They could have done it THIS way!" scenarios I've seen written by fans haven't done it for me]<br /><br />Here's my fanwankage (anybody wanna call me a Purple-Koolaid drinker, I really don't care. God only knows I'm not in the employ of CBS or Telenext!):<br /><br />Combined w/ the knowledge of Jessica's mat leave, June-ish, the GL writers learning of September cancellation, went with a "Hurry Up and Wait" (or rather "Wait and Hurry Up"?) strategy.<br /><br />That is, to actually S ~ L ~ O ~ W Otalia down, pre Mat Leave, and then break them up...<br /><br />...in order to RAMP UP the intensity when JL/Nat returns! [Yes, yes: the waters of the Egyptian River are indeed quite swimmable, to me]<br /><br />Hence, I think a conscious decision was made: "No kissing for Otalia, till after The Return". When this decision was made in April/May, it may have made some sense, but perhaps they just didn't realize how LUDICROUS it would seem by late June? [And BEYOND ludicrous, the visual of 36-month preggers JL w/ that damn pee-stick?! :-0]<br /><br />Ah well: I'm well and truly wanked-out for now. Hopefully by 1 August (if not sooner) we'll see (on air) if I was well&truly deluded.<br /><br />FWIW, I still don't think (for now) Nat's pregnant. IF she is, I think somehow Natalia will come to realize it's NOT God's judgment on "Otalia", and not the end of the world <i>for</i> Otalia. Whether it is for us the fans (in some large portion thereof) remains to be seen...<br /><br /><*> Speaking of Whom: what was TRULY out-of-character, IMO, was Shiny, Happy O<i>b</i>livia, of 2-3-4 July. Natalia has that "Can I Die Now?" tone, and Olivia doesn't notice? Doesn't take her to the doctor? Is repeatedly put off re The Big Emma Talk? Puh-leez. THAT was the Writing-FAIL of the past few weeks.JCFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-28898614992331991492009-07-11T12:17:38.739-07:002009-07-11T12:17:38.739-07:00It's hard to tell from the pix of Jessica Lecc...It's hard to tell from the pix of Jessica Leccia's recent scenes near Philly on location if she's still (as Natalia) "pregnant", so I'm holding out hope. However, if in fact the writers have been secretly making us think it's a pregnancy when in fact Natalia's got diabetes or something else, it does not excuse that she left Springfield "out of character" (again, she'd never hurt Emma, and allegedly loves Olivia so much that she'd never hurt her either, but not telling them both about the suspected pregnancy before "going on retreat"). It's a load of bollocks, or "everybody bulls@#$s", as Nikki Wade said in the UK series "Bad Girls" - a really fine example of a soap lesbian couple and another pair of fantastic goddess actors. At least there was a happy ending at season 3 for them. Hopefully, by 18 Sep we'll have one, too, for the ages.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10620567751342364701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-48726745482540689762009-07-11T12:14:08.757-07:002009-07-11T12:14:08.757-07:00GL took a beautifully written storyline that was s...GL took a beautifully written storyline that was something special and in one plot device made it into a run of the mill soap story.<br /><br />Otalia had enough hills to climb already. I was hoping that they were waiting until JL ml was over to get the couple 'together', then we would have a few weeks of seeing them as a happy united couple interacting with the town. Was that too much to ask? After all, this audience watched them FOLD LAUNDRY for months!<br /><br />With this pregnancy thrown in now, i see GL holding off on them until the very last episodes, where they will decide to raise the kid and 'be together'. But we will never actually see it on screen.<br /><br />From what I have read GL is at the bottom of the ratings because they do not listen to the fans, and have broken up popular couples, or killed popular characters in the past. I fear the end story for Otalia is just another reason why the audience abandoned GL and it's canceled.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-67664902589328980722009-07-11T09:07:08.870-07:002009-07-11T09:07:08.870-07:00Thank you for writing this wonderful article!!! To...Thank you for writing this wonderful article!!! Totally agree with everything. The producers and writers from GL have to read this to know why the Otalia fans are so annoyed!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-75078926910583252152009-07-11T08:11:35.764-07:002009-07-11T08:11:35.764-07:00Just...CHURCH!
You told 'em Snapper.
Somebod...Just...CHURCH!<br /><br />You told 'em Snapper.<br /><br />Somebody go and staple this to Ellen Wheeler's office door or forehead. Preferably option B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-50480087218578152009-07-11T06:44:56.584-07:002009-07-11T06:44:56.584-07:00And all of God's people said.... AMEN. Email ...And all of God's people said.... AMEN. Email to everyone one at CBS this great piece of writing that has a lot of everyone's feelings. Thank you so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-69285694861599554392009-07-11T06:18:05.703-07:002009-07-11T06:18:05.703-07:00Great article. Think 1 and 8 can be a failing of m...Great article. Think 1 and 8 can be a failing of most soaps! <br /><br />HOWEVER BIG DISCLAIMER: JL and CC make lemonade when the script hands them lemons (or vodka st clements if you need a little alcohol to get you through!)<br /> The writers have done some awesome stuff with Otalia prior to this.<br /><br />I think there is ONE reason Otalia has gone wrong, by forgetting:<br /><br />Commandment 11- It is mainly women that watch soaps.<br /><br />Guess what GL a lesbian relationship can occasionally be about the two women in it, not purely the father/frank/rafe/philip/the man of the week/probably the new baby who you will have named Frank or Gus no doubt. <br /><br />Any secure hetero male viewer will not feel threatened enough by this relationship that you have to:<br /><br />. call frank a good man four times an episode<br />. show otalia coming out to the entire town but never have them kiss<br />. make natalia pregnant in case they are not de-sexualised enough for CBS<br />. have it declared in court that the widowed mother who worked two jobs to support her child is less of a parent than the nearest xy chromosome<br /><br />Dont even get me started on the Jeffrey/Olivia rapemance ;)frannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-19939857929325127152009-07-11T03:31:30.417-07:002009-07-11T03:31:30.417-07:00I wonder whether Jill Lorie Hurst is still writing...I wonder whether Jill Lorie Hurst is still writing the storyline. I held out hope that Natalia would ultimately not be pregnant until the photos from Peapack were posted this week, and was surprised at the extent of my visceral reaction to the visual confirmation of this ultimate betrayal. My "purple haze" of denial has unmercifully cleared. The way this is going I would not be surprised to see this conclude with Olivia swinging from a rope, with Frank and Natalia sad, but smug in their heterosexual wedded bliss, all a la The Children's Hour indeed, while the BPD drones on with robotic excuses and inane discussions about soap conventions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-28203966061872320812009-07-11T01:05:40.725-07:002009-07-11T01:05:40.725-07:00i agree with everything said here expect for the b...i agree with everything said here expect for the bit about happy hetero philip. philip is getting screwed in much the same way otalia is--he's dying, his son is an ass, he's alone with his feelings except for lillian, etc. do gays and lesbians get fair and equal time? hell no. but there are a LOT of old characters who are also getting screwed due to shit writing. even good man frank, who used to be kind of mr. reliable and has become mr. judgmental asshole deluxe.<br /><br />both the otalia and philip storylines are upsetting to me as a longterm viewer of GL and hearken back to the days when the showrunners pulled such bullshit as showing michael zaslow the door just as he was beginning to face the illness that would ultimately take his life, or killing off maureen based on stupid focus groups. let's face it, GL often fucks up in the most astonishingly egregious fashions when push comes to shove. what we all want is for them to do the right thing by both viewers and actors alike, but i'm not holding my breath. wheelie has it out for all of them.pandoranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1522232293231604653.post-75817281113135303042009-07-11T00:06:05.812-07:002009-07-11T00:06:05.812-07:00That was the most honest and dead on storyline com...That was the most honest and dead on storyline commandments I have ever read and so very appropriate for the last months of silliness we have endured. I am so happy to see that free thinking is still alive and well in Otalialand! I was beginning to think everyone had fallen into some type of purple hazed LSD trip that prevented them from being able to differenciate between angst and idiocy!!! Thanks for this wonderful read!Uhaulhasaflattnoreply@blogger.com